http://www.katu.com/news/112953509.html



Could have went the other way to, I guess this chief
knew the kid so he was recluctant to shoot.

No charges will be filed, book it.

I think the thieves know the risk...just as long as the property owner with the itchy trigger finger knows it, too....that risk being if you kill someone without legal cover, you will go to jail.

If your outboard motor is worth that risk to you, then I say go for it. If it's not, then don't.

The only thing you're not allowed to do is kill someone without legal cover, and then whine about going to jail for it.

Fish on...

Todd

Actually, there's something else that you're not allowed to do...be a card carrying member of the "law and order" crowd, and then explain how that doesn't apply to you.

If you can justify breaking the law, then you also can't whine about others who can and do.

Fish on...

Todd

Todd hasn't convicted anyone, of anything.

Todd said that if the killing wasn't justifiable, then old man burns.

If it was, then old man walks.

Seems those who have made up their mind about the young punk thief getting what he deserved are the ones who, with no facts, have made up their mind.

Fish on...

Todd

Toxicology reports will play a factor. At most, the Old man will serve 1-2 years max.

There are a number of things that I would like to know prior to making any judgements on either's innocence or guilt:

1. Does either have a criminal record that may give us a better insight into the intent of either?
2. Is there any evidence(witnesses, correspondence, etc.) of the relationship that existed between the 67 year old and the 20 something guy that would indicate that the 67 year old may have had homicidal intent?
3. Are there any witnesses to this incident who can provide clarity?

I don't know what happened. We appear to have only one alive witness to the incident. What I am saying is that under the circumstances that we currently have in front of us, it is difficult and irresponsible to hold the 67 year old up as a hero. I'm not saying he is a villian, only that none of us know what is the truth.

And even though Aunty can't find the citation, it really doesn't matter. Two things are paramount:

1. Before someone can be judged as using justifiable homicide, homicide must be indicated as the means of death.

2. Just because the death is ruled as homicide, nothing is really changed. I had questions about this before the Coroner's ruling came out. Everybody seemed to be so interested in exalting the 67 year old that my suspicions were instantly aroused. Maybe that makes me a contrarian, non-violent peacenik!

It looked like an older Merc, I could see if it was a newer Yami T8 or something.

Rest in Piss! I hate thieves!

I'd like to get my hands on the POS that stole 40+ rods/reels, log splitter, chainsaws, weedeater etc from my dad's place 6 months ago...

It amazes me people have the never to take that much time to clean out a place and not fear for their life....

Keith

Aunty, how in the world does the call to 911 indicate anything more than that a call was made to 911? There are plenty of instances where people make inappropriate or dishonest calls to 911.

Here is the information about the relationship. "The boat owner recognized the attacker as his nephew's friend. He managed to wrap his arms around the would-be thief's neck, and held on." This is from the following page - http://www.komonews.com/news/local/125927234.html?skipthumb=Y Please note the date in the report.

I am amazed that some people still proclaim the 20 something as a thief when the only evidence that we have that he is a thief is the word of the man who killed him. Far as I am concerned it would be like someone calling the 67 year old a murderer. I am not proclaiming anyone as innocent or guilty, only that we do not know the facts.

I'm betting the old man got the kid in a choke hold from the rear. The old guy went to the hospital, so I'm thinking there was a struggle. The old guy may have managed to get behind the kid and choked the turd to death. And he may very well have not meant to do so.

It's really too bad that the kid didn't get away with stealing the motor. Then he could have stolen someone elses.....and then someone elses.....and then......who knows?

No, what's sad is the 9 year old girl who was severely wounded on I-90 after the logging truck crushed her skull in the 10 car pile up.

Well now that we know the identity of the alleged thief we may be able to get some more answers. His name is Dylan T. Jones of Everett, 23 years old. If you have the software to do background checks, you may be interested in the results (or more appropriately the lack of results). Now if we could just get the name of the alleged victim.

Not sure where you were looking Eddie. Dylan Thomas Jones has 8 interactions with the court system in Snohomish & King County and Lynnwood, all as a defendant, between 2007 and 2010. Not a boyscout, and those were only the times he's been caught. Certainly not prolific, but he played a stupid game and won a stupid prize. I don't think he deserved to die, but I won't shed a tear for him either.

My wife is a juvenile probation officer, so I'm sure she could dig up information on this guy in more detail, but on the surface, it looks like the dead guy was a turd.

Andy, you are correct. I do not have the internet tools. It looks like the likelihood of this going down just like the 67 year old said has just gone up dramatically. My original point is still valid I feel, it is really important to not jump to conclusions without supporting facts. I would expect that some enterprising newsperson will outline exactly what all of these cases are about and this will fade away.

Here is a site for you Eddie.

http://dw.courts.wa.gov/index.cfm?fa=home.namesearch&terms=accept

It is helpful when looking over rental applications, or when you are getting to know folks who you may be hiring for an odd job, etc. Certainly not definitive, but when someone you are sitting accross the table from has 87 interactions as a defendant with the State court system at the age 25 or 30, and you have one or none, is speaks to a person's character.

If the ole guy had gone to the kids property and this happened I guess there would be some questions, but since it was the other way around I would put my money on no charges filed.

I'm with Stam, I know plenty of 67 year olds that would volunteer for that public service!


Fishy

i agree with this totally. betcha the thief/punk was wearing skinny jeans, 3 sizes to small. or 3 sizes to big, wearing belt. sporting a greasy greenday t-shirt.

See top of page #2 Hank.